One guess, after another, and it goes on and on and on. Treadwell was, and did, none of these. Anyways thank you to the writer for not being like everyone else . Katmai National Park Ranger. Audio Recording of the death of Timothy Treadwell, "The Grizzly Man". In fact im sure hunters got the idea from him as permitting increased unfortunetly he has popularizied the area to the world. The scariest part of the story is that he found no front paw prints on theretreating path of the bear. He was in a manic cycle which I think he liked and made sure to push himself into one during bear season. (Ellis 2003, pg 4. Just recently I was given access to the first 2 minutes of the 6 minute tape. He decides to hike up the path from the beach and through the thick alder brush towards the camp after he notices a little bit of movement. Had a sheep herd. October 10, 2020 By Nick Jans Nick Jans recalls his own encounters with the stories and tragic deaths of Timothy Treadwell and Chris McCandless. I don't even remember what it was I was looking up on google when I came across your story. Thank you for the new knowledge, and the time you put in. The publisher of this latest UTube version stated to me in an email that he knew the audio he labeled as real, is in fact a fake. That must have hurt his family something awful. The young gets to the age where, they will Challenge the older, leaders for Authority if he beaten he kick out the Clan. All four begin yelling in hopes that the bear would see them and move away. I have read a whole bunch of articles on Tim and Amie's attack and death and in my humble opinion, I feel this is the closest to the truth there is. But a man and woman doing a coordinated effort one a single microphone they are both within similar proximity to seems more likely than the woman being just as far from the camera as he is. I didnt choose to go into conservation, other idiot humans forced me into it by their actions. One who spends so much time each year around grizzly bears, but is also the thought that keeps me in check. Maybe. I remember about 15 years ago or something my dad showed me an email PowerPoint thing about Timothy treadwell attack that used to get passed around. Commercial aircraft fly over the polar bear habitat so chartered planes (or ships) could drop animal carcuses over the region until we can figure out how to cool our planet down to re-form the sea ice. You could chase a wolf off its kill and it would run away. I've searched online in hopes of finding out who wrote such a powerful articleto no avail. Superintendent of Katmai National Park. Tim then is clearly heard screaming that playing dead isnt working and begs her to hit the bear! ( Van Daele 2005, Fallico 2004), The sound of rain hitting the tent, along with wind muffle the sounds at this point. Before an attack, a person seldom sees any signs of aggression writes, Dr. Stephen Herrero in his book Bear Attacks, Their Causes and Avoidance. Something seemed strange, hollering with no answer. He often taped the encounters.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-2','ezslot_9',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-2-0'); So what happened? I learn that. 1. Sounds of the bear dragging Tim off, and the fading sounds of his screams indicate that Tim is being pulled and dragged into the brush and away from camp.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_7',117,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0'); As the tape comes to an end, the sounds of Amies high-pitched screams rise to a new level, much like what has been described as the sound of a predator call used by hunters to produce the distress cries of a small wounded animal which often attracts bears. Treadwell was last heard from at noon Sunday, when he used a satellite phone to call a friend in Malibu. A copy editor would have helped you clarify long run-on sentences and punctuation errors. People do stupid things for fame, money, and greed. Why did he tell park rangers he had no living relatives? The tapes, which capture the sounds of Timothy and Huguenard's deaths, are described by Mirror as being rather gory. Including two humans. Now think about the fact that up till the end of the last Ice Age, most of the world was filled with even more ferocious and massive beasts than currently exist. I am sad for Amy. However, I do not believe that Amies screams attracted the bear like a predator call. Nice readI've seen a sasquatch twice in broad day lightonce as close to me as he was to these bears and second time 1/4 a mile off in a confrontation with a brown bear over a dead elkeven the squatch backed away and was smart enough to leave it aloneeven though it was taller than the bear that reared up on it's hind legsthis was b4 cell phones1991. The plain truth is he was the Village Idiot, left without adult supervision, with predictable results. I love being hypomanic. Very well writtne , thank you for writing such a wild piece about a wild perosn. Votes: 13 24.1% Throw Salt on the Boyfriend, Run Like Hell! I'm truly sick of hearing about fucktards like him being cited as "Brave" and "Magical" and all the other cockswallop bandied about . Pretty sure that is more your hang up than his. Sadly, I don't think there was anything Tim or Amy could have done at this point. This is the best article I have found on the tragedy of Treadwell and his girlfriend. Likewise, a 28-year-old bear devoured a 46-year-old man and his girlfriend, and the authorities discovered the pairs clothing and other human remains in its stomach. I've even known humans to get very angry when they are hungry, including myself. Very possibly gay. Extremely rare, but it has happened. For 13 summers Timothy Treadwell fled California for the wilds of Alaska, where he set his camp among some of the largest and most numerous brown bears left in North America. During this period, Tims cries and pleadings can be heard for two-thirds of that time. i learned everything i needed to know about what happened, plus ive gained a few tips on what not to do in bear encounters. I really appreciate it. I was in alaska same time he was people in town asked me if i came here to pull a treadwell so he was definately known. The fact that he was not killed earlier, just goes to prove that grizzly bears really want nothing to do with humans and would rather avoid us whenever possible, but will tolerate us, to a point. This article has been tagged as NSFL due to its disturbing subject matter/audio. But I don't really think so, I think he was just the Average, Common Ass, Garden Variety Insanely ARROGANT, Narcissistic Human Privileged American- Dangerously Clueless, all the while THINKING He actually has a Clue, when everyone around him KNOWS he Truly does not know the difference between Shit and Shine-ola. (Ellis 2003, pg 5). Caused by animals. The article is great except that the author does not correctly identify the bear that killed and ate Tim and Amie. The sound of Amie screaming very loudly, as Tim is clearly heard over the sounds of the storm, saying Amie get away, get away, go away. I give him a lot of respect for going into Alaska with none. No gun, I know, not permitted in national parks at the time. I wonder, is it possible that Amie wasn't killed by the bear? Was it mainly due to being orphaned so young? Timothy comes out of the tent to bluff the bear away, but the bear's ability to pick up on the signals is compromised by the weather, and he/she sees TT as a threat. Be safe, be true to you, enjoy your journey. Thank you for all the work you put into this piece and for sharing it with us. Also, his constant abuse of drugs and alcohol. I would think twice from just sending this as a letter to Alaska Parks and Recreation Admin for fear I wouldn't get the intelligent and unbiased author, rather that my letter and others and future letters penned by prospective park employees or bear enthusiasts wishing to be the next Mr. Seus or Mr. Treadwell (at heart but with an educated mind) anyway, I would perhaps refrain from mailing this letter in search of seeking the experienced insightful author (name unknown) as it's recipient but,dreadfully, falling in the red neck ignorant hands of the pilot man who said outloud in a movie without much hesitation, that Treadwell got what he deserved. 2006, Discovery Channel Special, on camera interview. Grizzly bears are wild animals and should always be treated as such, wild and unpredictable. [1] Throughout the movie, Grizzly Man, we see Tim in numerous close encounters, and very nearly attacked on several occasions. This latter scenario can not be confirmed because thankfully for us the video tape ran out before it occurred.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-1','ezslot_12',123,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-1-0'); This incident occurred due to An unconventional person with unconventional behavior toward bears, camped in the middle of a very dangerous situation.. In the summer of 2005, Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man made a minor celebrity of Timothy Treadwell, a man alternately seen as either a reckless crank or a naive idealist. But let's face it, no one deserves the kind of tormented life or death Timothy endured. Sadly his actions caused his death and Amie his girlfriend. What a heartbreaking tragedy. Grizzly bears are one of the largest apex predators in North America, other than man, they have no predators, they are kings of the forest and if it moves, to the grizzly, thats a meal. That somehow these same bears then want to get back at humans is just too far reaching. Or he could have done this out of fear, thus wanting to please her. When he investigatedin the light of day the barn door was torn open and one of his1500 to 2000 pound horses had been carried off. Bear spray is allowed, however Tim had quit carrying bear spray for protection several summers prior to his death. For this, I apologize. Indeed. (Ellis 2003, pg 3). Go Away! Living by eating our garbage, with the occasional attempt at a child thrown in. If he wasnt born intellectually challenged, perhaps he was psychologically traumatized by events of his past. I would have spent as many seasons as I could with him out there. LOVE ?? Timothy Treadwell formed mutual bonds between the wild creatures and spent the majority of his waking hours playing and observing the large wild beasts. I haven't found anything online but just curious if anyone took a little trip out there to take pictures or video and see what's changed. After reading your excelent article which I stumbled across by chance and then looked up the Documentary my opinion is that by staying later than ussual in the year, most of the healthier well fed bears that were used to Tims pressence went into hibernation thus leaving their territory free for wilder more agresive less well fed bears who were desperate to put on weight to go into hibernation, these bears would not hessitate to kill and feed at the first oportunity they would have encontered.Another consideration I have is had Amie stood her ground after she initially startled the bear maybe Tim would not have been draged away as it basicaly became a fight over prey, . shotgun slugs that killed the bear. no wild conspiracy theories, no fake audio, just FACTS. The camera captured the victims grotesque screams and excruciating suffering. In one of the more powerful scenes in Werner Herzog's 2005 documentary film about the attack, Grizzly Man, the director himself bears witness to this auditory horror. If you watch documentaries on Bart, he was actually considered a brilliant "actor." I was a logger on Afognak Island in the 80's and once briefly encountered a brown bear, I was terrified. No Willy. Look at how many idiots get killed driving drunk? Tim also writes in his diary that Amie believes he is hell bent on destruction and that this will be her last season in Alaska with him, leaving him for good, and that she was looking forward to starting a new job and desperate to return to California. Herzog contends that the cameras lens was not opened in the documentary Grizzly Man.. To them, you are a meal, nothing more and if you do find yourself in the vicinity of a bear, especially a grizzly, or a brown bear and you have somehow aggravated, or pissed them off, your chances of survival are very slim at best. RIP both. Excellent research and writing conducted ethically with hardened integrity. And from what I read, no one has a degree in this field or even a related one. Palovak, Jewel. Votes: 8 14.8% Climb a Tree & Wait For Help! Dont mess with bears. Bears along the Alaskan coast are well-fed because of the areas salmon runs. Find out: What Caused The Death Of David Salman? I honestly dont think he did any harm out there. Apparently either Tim had asked Amie to turn the camera on, or Amie just turned it on out of reflex. As Tim leaves the tent, investigators believe that Amie instinctively turns the camera on, possibly as her message in a bottle, and then asks Tim if the bear is still out there, and almost immediately the bear attacks. A video camera was recovered at the site that proved to have been operating during the attack, but police said that the six-minute tape contained only voices and cries as a brown bear mauled Treadwell to death. But Treadwell was a fool. I have lived through horrors of nature that will forever walk in my dreams. In the last few minutes of the film, we see Tim walking across the tidal flats with two red fox following close behind. I came here since I heard the audio on youtube and wanted more insight and boy was this such a great read. Perhaps the author didn't want letters addressed to (him?) After barely graduating high school, Tim left for Southern California and ended up in Long Beach. (Liggett 2003), Liggett applauded the fact that Treadwell was winning fans for the bears, and was being more careful to warn people not to attempt what he did, but she and other park officials were afraid that one swipe of a paw would undo all that and result in a frenzy of stories about fearsome, people-eating grizzlies. I can't speak for Amie other then her utterly heroic feat, I mean fuck, Leonidas would have shed a tear. Instead of attracting the bear like a predator call, I believe this very aggressive bear was still attempting to protect its kill. The tragedy is Tim took Amy with him. I feel so sorry for both of them. "But there was really no where to run.if she'd curled up in the tent and remained silent, the stench of the fag's carcass would have drawn other bears.Complete Cali airheadsnature loves us?no, nature is only the strong survive.I find it curious that the author cites Aimee as TT's lover?that cat was only a few clicks away from wearing a dress.lol. If so, his concern for people killing fox then placed those very fox he was so desperate to protect in even greater danger the next time they encounter a human and expect to be fed. The chilling final moments of Timothy and his girlfriend were captured on tape as they were mauled to death by a brown bear. Night encounters are much different than surprise encounters during the day and must be handled differently. And don't understand, at all, the play dead, since if unable to discern female or male, and even if they could, these were brown and not black bears, so any cubs won't be safe up in the tree, meaning mom is going to eliminate any perceived threat by finishing you off, and then back to her cubs (brown bear likely leaves back to her cubs as soon as no perceived threat, so with mom black bear, by all means, play dead if you can't slowly back away.Next, you are rather likely right in the one respect. Indeed. We might be a superior species but only because of our brain, not our braun. David Croall.. In front of this main tent was a large mound of mud, grass and sticks, five feet long, 4 foot wide, and 3 feet high. All my observations had to be done from a number of blinds set up near dens. lets respect the bears by leaving them their space & staying in our own. He was very passionate about bears, but lacked in common sense and healthy fear of wild animals. Poor amy i wish i could have saved her. Much as it would have done with a salmon or other food item when approached by other bears in the area. There have been quite a few comments made about Tim being responsible for Amies death, I have actually struggled with this for several years now. It's very clear in his videos he was screaming out to be loved. As soon as that bear started dragging him off as a food source. Cambodia? He was just plain lucky for 13 years and became over confident in his own abilities. His fate reminds me a little bit of Steve Irwin's death. Tim knew he was going to die at this point and wanted to save Amie from the same fate. Showed me all of the aftermath of him and his wife, except the wife was just a jump scare of the exorcist. I will never consider a competing predator at the top of the food chain my friend and I will defend my place at the very top of the food chain instantly and with deadly force. He was an old bear and Tim included footage of Quincy in the Grizzle Man Diaries, and Tim said they were great friends, which was sad, considering that Quincy was the old Grizzly bear that was identified by Jans as Bear 141, which had a lot of human flesh inside its stomach after the rangers killed it. So it makes sense that this bear was fed up with being hungry, got desperate, and was willing to eat anything. I think thats what helped Treadwells LUCK, he stayed calm.I have no respect for Treadwell. Dear Bear Man;Excellent analysis, at least from my experiences with bears. Anyway, thanks for the article! I easily get bored when encountered with long paragraphs but yours definitely intrigued me more. When you hear the bears roar they are clearly closer to the camera than the screaming indicating a poor audio dubbing As i was increasingly fooled by repeats of the footage, I started to renounce my skepticism a little by saying maybe a second bear was wandering close to the camera as the other bear ate him because there are somewhat more distant roars in the footage too. I was like a living Tiger Tank traversing the forest. You did an amazing job. In this case, the humans should have continued their exit plan and listened to theirs but foolishy they didnt. Because the bear did not appear to be acting aggressively, the rangers allowed it to move off. The one rule he should have broken but ironically never did was not to be armed. Run Faster! They are not to be trusted . I really loved this article. According to Tim, as a teenager his home life disintegrated often getting stinking drunk and once smashed up the families car. (Van Daele 2004, National Park Service 2003)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_16',112,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-4-0'); In late June 2003, Tim and Amie arrive in Katmai and set camp at Hallo Bay, in what Tim referred to as the Sanctuary. I have no opinion on Treadwell as a person, or his character, I know he loved Grizzly bears and wanted to protect them, but after all is said and done, when Treadwell stepped foot into grizzly territory, it was only a matter of time before he would meet his fate. Egli, Sam. Its a shame however, that Amy died in the process too. Nope, No Sympathy for HIM. A threat to the males. Only a damned fool faces man eaters unarmed and the park service is crazy to ask anyone to do so, the bears be damned. Dalrymple, Derek. Im an engineer & pilot in the energy sector. That also weakens the piece just a bit (I am reluctant to say) but it's the truth. His need to escape humans and antisocial behavior, again point to the social awkwardness and anxiety he felt toward people. Im struck also by the authors sense of ethics and morality in sharing this. As a typical child, he had a strong affinity for animals. I hope it was just so. The Brother Of? Ranger Ellis was standing with ranger Gilliland and Willy Fulton to his left. ~ A True Story Of Love And Death In The Wilderness ~. I dont agree with everything said in this article but I appreciate & respect the time you put into it & that youre a true wildlife person. But from what I observed, is that Tim had an addictive behavior. In my opinion, Amie was able to drive the bear away initially, because this was an older bear who had become conditioned when dealing with younger, stronger, more dominant bears by moving away from the food it had just obtained after being challenged, and was probably startled by a second animal, Amie in this case, suddenly appearing and making a lot of noise.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3','ezslot_10',121,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3-0'); After scaring the bear away, Amie and Tim have a short conversation while determining where the bear is, and whether it is still nearby. (I dont believe this latter scenario took place for one minute which I will discuss in detail below). Director/Producer Grizzly Man Movie. But when his mauled remains were discovered, the legend began to unravel. Wildlife biologist, Alaska Department of Fish and Game. how interesting and very thorough. Some readers may find the following information and examination disturbing. THE POLAR BEARS THANK YOU. This could indicate that he was closer to her than his dad. I spent five years studying wolves in the wild in Canada in the 1980's. Took some digging. To make this guy out to be a true conservationist is an insult to those knowledgeable rangers, hunters, sportsmen, etc that understand that these bears are wild animals that cannot be truly humanly domesticated and trusted as by there very nature have animal instincts that will ultimately prevail. After learning a little about Treadwell, I thought what one word best describes him. Hundreds of video taped encounters like this have been filmed over the years with many different bears. You hear the gf say "is it STILL out there?" and then a few minutes later Timothy is heard saying "hel me! He mightve still alived had he stayed inside the tent when the bear was approaching, unfortunately his delusion cost the lives of 1 woman and 3 bears. Hopefully the end was quick. I have recently watched Grizzly Man at the request of a friend who found I was entertaining black bears in my yard, granted it is really far out in the middle of nowhere, but i do have distant neighbors. An initiative of the Coolidge Corner Theatre, in partnership with the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. But I definitely would have had a firearm with me, just for protection. Willy states that he could not be 100% sure, but was confident that something was wrong. But if you truly think that that is his main diagnosis, you need to turn that degree back in. I got curious when I came across Tim and Amies tragic story. Not the bodies, but just the torn-up camp and things like that etcAlso, has anyone went back to the site? Appearing as though she were peacefully asleep except that her body, like Tims, had been mostly eaten by the bear. He needed someone that cared enough to get him help. Timothy Treadwell AKA The Grizzly Man Autopsy Photos Grab a Frying Pan & Hit It on the Head! This is more, a story of Tim committing suicide. All I know is anyone who beats on a bear with a frying pan has balls, no matter how long they hesitate. Dont ask me why because I cant explain it myself, and many people would never understand it, even if I were able to explain it. In video footage recovered from the camp, there was at least some video taken days or hours earlier, showing Amie sitting on the ground as a large bear sits behind her within 10 feet. Greatings from Dsseldorf. The word WANNABE pops into my head. For 13 years, Timothy Treadwell camped in several Alaskan parks but Katmai National Park was a favorite, crawling and walking up close to bears and filming them. Do not feed them. You will hear a thousand opinions on gun forums.If you do the basic math, the physcis dictates the shorgun is a poor man's elephant gun. A few documentaries on his exploits and achievements in the outdoors have also been made and published by him. How could a genuine naturalist move in such extremes? He left his parents nearly nothing, which also could indicate his distant relationship with both of them. Remaining calm will probably prevent the animals predatory instincts from being triggered. Tim honored nobody in life but the bears i have never heard him on tape speak of anyone but himself. Egli Air (Helicopter) Haul. The events are truly shocking and serves as a reminder that wildlife needs to be respected and given its space from human interaction. The remains of Tim Treadwell, 46, a self proclaimed eco-warrior and photographer, along with girlfriend Amie Huguenard, 37, a physicians assistant, both of Malibu California were found Monday October 6, 2003 in Katmai usgs topo map of kaflia bay, alaska, area of maulingNational Park and Preserve on the Alaska Peninsula after the air taxi pilot Willy Fulton, who had flown in to pick the couple up near Kaflia Bay, contacted the National Park Service and Alaska State Troopers to report that a brown bear was sitting on top of what appeared to be human remains near the camp. There is nothing majestic or beautiful about it. That makes him about the stupidest man I've ever heard of. In some strange way, I dont think he ever thought that these apex predators would ever harm him, that is a mistake a person only makes once. (I have new details regarding thisto be addedbasically, Tim wrote out and signed a letter to the park service claiming that he had no living relatives, and should he be killed, to give his possessions and remains to Jewel Palovak). He was trying to prove that bears are not monsters which they are not but they will eat when hungry and just about anything in site is on the menu. He specialties include biometry, ecology, ethology, anddynamics of wildlife populations. When Tredwell was in his 20s, he developed a heroin addiction and had a fatal overdose that came dangerously close to taking his life. Im not sure the cause or timeline, but it seemed rather obvious to me that this guy wasnt playing with a full deck. But when you go to the wild and provide beasts with many opportunities to prove your delusion to you, one of them or some of them WILL take the offer. Was Tim feeding the fox? Nature is cruel. Bears die all the time, they fight, they starve, they get diseases and other injuries, they die. The footage that he himself shot forms the core of this fascinating inquiry into the fragile relationship between man and nature. If someone had told me back in October 2003 that I would be investigating and writing about this incident for several years, I would have laughed. Its seems obvious that author know what hes talking about. Willy Fulton states; Tim was a little smarter than most people gave him credit for. Thats the risk we have to take to see the last remaining symbol of wilderness. Tim did not handcuff or hold her hostage up in Alaska, Amie came and went of her own free will twice each year for three summers. Please let me know what you think? Treadwell, Tim. A former heroin addict, the 46-year-old found solace with the grizzlies - who he spoke to, played with. 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